Steve Richard

Or do you want to go, you want to go and do something meaningful?

That's going to change the world.

And we said, hell yeah.

So that's when we went and bought team visibility.

Um, and then since then have built it up to the numbers that you talked about before.

And you know, more than anything else, Nathan, the thing that drives us is salespeople getting better.

you know, and, and, and there are, there's a lot of companies out there that are tackling this problem of conversations or black box.

What's that?

Who else?

Who names?

If you go into the big call centers, they've been tackling this problem forever.

Interactive intelligence, nice systems, fair.

There's just a ton of, of, of technologies that do kind of sort of similar things that we do, but they're really built for like American airlines call center.

If you look at, if you look at a typical B2B sales or B2C sales organization,

or a service organization, this is a completely foreign concept to them.

They've never had anything like this.

It was April, 2015.

No, none of the original people that were involved are still involved at this point.

But they have equity?

Yes, many of them do.