Steve Toth

And he ended up getting a chairmanship, committee chairmanship, which these guys love getting committee chairmanships.

They love being called chairman.

Outside their office, you know, it says Steve Toth, House District 15, and it shows the committees that you serve on.

Well, for those guys, it's chairman.

That's like a big deal.

And these guys love, you know, being called chairman of the Texas House.

It's just, it's such a, you know, it's just such an ego boost.

No, you pass some legislation, but you sell a little bit of your soul in the midst of it.

It's a transaction.

It's such a slow, Tucker, it's such a slow process.

For some guys, it happens a lot quicker than others, but it's a slow process where you just lose your soul.

That's so dark.

No.

I can't ever think of a time when I've seen somebody that's gone over and said, wow, I blew it.

I mean, I've seen guys that had a bad vote

that have come back next session said, gosh, that was a stupid vote.

I was part of their team, but they hadn't sold their soul.

They just, they made a bad vote.

And then they come back the next session.

Yeah, I've seen that, but none that have fully gone over, become chairman and lost their soul and come back.