Steven Bartlett

Which is, I mean, that's an indirect if I've ever heard one.

Do you know what I mean?

If someone like co-founded this podcast with me and then they left and started a podcast called Safe Podcasting, I'd take that as a slight.

I'd have people knocking on their door and asking for their texts.

Do you think some of these AICs realise that they are quite literally summoning the demon, as Elon said, 10 years ago, but they don't really care because being the person that summoned the demon is...

makes you consequential and powerful and historical, even if the outcome is potentially horrific, even if there's like a 20% outcome of it being horrific.

I remember, I think it was Dario, he's the one that said there's somewhere between a 10% and 25% chance of things going catastrophically wrong on the scale of human civilization.

25% is a one in four chance.

If you put bullets in a four chamber revolver,

and said, Stephen, the upside is you could become a multi-gazillionaire and be remembered forever.

The downside is that there would be a bullet in your head.

There is no chance that I would take that bet with a 25% potential chance of things going catastrophically wrong.

I got it.

So on one end, you've got to say, if we don't, China will.

But if we let anyone else do it other than me, then we're fucked as well.

So that means that I have to do it and you have to give me money and support.

Dune, for anyone that doesn't know Dune.

And this is the whole psychology of cognitive dissonance, right?

Where the brain struggles to hold two conflicting worldviews at the same time.

So it's incentivized or endeavors to dismiss one.