Steven Benson

So that's a really good one.

Uh, Jason Lemkin, I'd say is the most influential CEO that, that I follow.

And he's not, he's not a CEO now.

Well, actually he kind of is a CEO again with his, with his, uh, he's more of a venture capitalist now, but he used to use the founder of EchoSign.

My 20-year-old self.

I wish that I knew when I was 20 that when you look at a career path, you should look for something that you enjoy, that you're good at, and there are jobs in.

And by following...

following and going after the things that you enjoy and are good at.

And there's a job and you're going to have, you have a more rewarding career and you end up doing, doing things that you are really passionate about and really interested in faster and sooner.

Absolutely.

Thanks for having me on here.

Hey, uh, by the way, if any of your listeners want 20, uh, two months, a free badger, they can just mention this podcast and I'll have my, my sales reps do that.

Well, they, uh, just go to our website and sign up for a free trial.

And then when you, when you get one of our sales reps in the horn, just say, Hey,

I heard about this on this podcast, and Steve said he'd give me two months free, and they'll hook you up.

Sure.

So what Badger does is we help field salespeople with their jobs.

It's called Badger Maps originally because the original thought was that field salespeople needed to be able to view their territory and activities and schedule on a map when they go out into the field every day.

And it's really, you know, it started from that base and solving that set of problems and then grew from there to now really trying to do a lot of things for the field salesperson and make their day go better and more efficiently.

Yes, we're a SaaS model.