Steven Bonnell (Destiny)
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first heard Mar 2024
last heard Mar 2024
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Thank God.
They believe that they are killing Hamasniks. They're given certain objectives.
I know what he's quoting. You've lied about this particular instance in the past. Those kids weren't just on the beach, as is often stated in articles. Those kids were literally coming out of a previously identified Hamas compound that they had operated from.
And to be clear, on the other side, you're implying that a strike was okayed on the Israeli side where they said, we're just going to kill four Palestinian children today for no reason.
Do you believe that? Do you believe that? Do you believe that? Do you believe that? Do you believe that?
Do you believe that? Do you believe that? Do you believe that? Do you believe that? Do you believe that? Do you believe that?
Yeah, Hamas.
But I'm not sure Israel behaved morally in that respect. No, no, no.
I'm willing to grant you that. Please, please.
You're lying. It's so funny. It had aspects of violence to it. Okay.
In regards to the Great March of Return, they said, while the vast majority of protesters have acted in a peaceful manner, during most protests, dozens have approached the fence attempting to damage it with burning tires, throwing stones, and Molotov cocktails towards Israeli forces and flying incendiary kites and balloons into Israeli territory.
The latter results in extensive damage to agricultural land and nature reserves inside Israel. and risk the lives of Israeli civilians.
I already know what you're going to say. You're going to say it found that only one or two of them were justified killings.
Can we talk about the targeting civilian thing a little bit? I think there's like an important underlying, not necessarily that. I just, I think it's important to understand. Yeah, I think it's important to understand there's like three different things here that we need to think about. So one is a policy of killing civilians.
Do we, so I would ask the other side, I'm going to ask all three because I know there won't be a short answer. Do you think there is a policy top-down from the IDF to target civilians? That's one thing. A second thing is— He said yes. Yeah, sure. Okay, yeah. That's fine. Okay. But then the second thing is—or there's two distinctions I want to draw between. I think Benny would say this.
I would say this. I am sure, undoubtedly, there have been cases where IDF soldiers, for no good reason, have targeted and killed Palestinians that they should not have done, that would be prosecutable as war crimes as defined by the Rome Statute and the ICC.
And some have been. been prosecuted.
According to you and your books, practically none. I'm sure that we would all agree for soldiers that that happens. But I think that it's important.
I think that it's important that when we talk about military strikes, when we talk about things especially involving bombings or drone attacks, these are things that are signed off by multiple different layers of command, by multiple people involved in an operation, including intelligence gathering, including weaponry, and there also have typically lawyers involved.
When you make the claim that an IDF soldier shot a Palestinian, those three people, the three hostages that came up with white flags and something horrible happened, I think that's a fair statement to make. And I think a lot of criticism is deserved. But when you make the statement that four children were killed by a strike, The claim that you're making, yeah. Deliberately, yes.
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