Steven Bonnell (Destiny)

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The claim that you're making, the claim that you're making is that multiple levels of the IDF signed off on just killing- I have no idea what- That's right. If you don't understand the process, then let me educate you. I can tell you. I do understand the process. I'm telling you. I'm trying to explain to you right now. You're in the IDF. No, it's basic military.
Yes, you can talk to people who work in the military. What's your knowledge of the IDF? You know what? The audience can look this up. Do you think that bombing and strikes are decided by one person in the field?
Do you think one person is in control of an airplane or a drone strike?
Yes, strike cells have entire apparatuses that are designed to figure out how to strike and who to strike. So when you say that four children are targeted, you're saying that a whole apparatus is trying to murder four Palestinian children, which is a ridiculous argument.
You don't understand the strength of the claim that you're making.
Neither of you really understands Israel.
Targeted is too soft for what the Hamas did.
No, we've agreed. I've just said that this has happened here and there. We've agreed on that. What we're saying is it's not policy, which is what you guys are implying, that they kill civilians deliberately.
For strike cells that are involved in drone attacks or plane attacks? Yes.
No, no, that's not true. Especially not the Air Force. Extremely, extremely organized. The Air Force works in a very organized fashion. As he says, with lawyers, chain of command, and ultimately the pilot drops the bomb where he's told to drop it.
In Protective Edge, was that 200 strikes in like 60 seconds, I think? I think at the opening of Protective Edge? Yeah, the coordination between the military and everything. You're talking about 2008? I think Protective Edge was 2014. But I'm just saying that the coordination in the military is...
Well, I'm not necessarily saying NGC. I'm just saying that that would have required murderous intent for so many people. I don't think good evidence has been presented to say that that's the case.
Who is in the families? Who lives in the house?
No, or next to the house in which these families are killed. We have seen incidents. Do you know that Hamasniks weren't in that house? Do you know that their ammunition dumps weren't in those houses?
You're saying that they deliberately targeted families.
If Israel wanted to kill civilians in Gaza, they could have killed 500,000 by now with the number of strikes they've done. And the fact that they've only killed a certain small number in proportion.
Small number in proportion over four months probably is an indication that it's targeted and that there are Hamas targets in these places.
Here's a question.
Even if we take the numbers, though, what does that prove? Those are Hamas numbers.
Which may not be true.
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