Steven Bonnell (Destiny)
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Killings of Jews in Iraq and Egypt in 1948-49. I'm not denying it. But the Arabs, the Jews basically fled the Arab states, not for multiple reasons. They fled because they felt that the governments there and the societies amid which they had lived for hundreds of years no longer wanted them.
Killings of Jews in Iraq and Egypt in 1948-49. I'm not denying it. But the Arabs, the Jews basically fled the Arab states, not for multiple reasons. They fled because they felt that the governments there and the societies amid which they had lived for hundreds of years no longer wanted them.
Killings of Jews in Iraq and Egypt in 1948-49. I'm not denying it. But the Arabs, the Jews basically fled the Arab states, not for multiple reasons. They fled because they felt that the governments there and the societies amid which they had lived for hundreds of years no longer wanted them.
Well, because untenable meant there was no alternative. But with the creation of Israel, there was an alternative, right? A place where they could go and not be discriminated against or live as second class citizens or be subject to Arab majority states.
Well, because untenable meant there was no alternative. But with the creation of Israel, there was an alternative, right? A place where they could go and not be discriminated against or live as second class citizens or be subject to Arab majority states.
Well, because untenable meant there was no alternative. But with the creation of Israel, there was an alternative, right? A place where they could go and not be discriminated against or live as second class citizens or be subject to Arab majority states.
I also think it's interesting that like when you analyze the flight of Jewish people, and I've seen this, that it wasn't just, I agree with you, it wasn't just a mass expulsion from all the Arab states. There were definitely push factors. There were also pull factors.
I also think it's interesting that like when you analyze the flight of Jewish people, and I've seen this, that it wasn't just, I agree with you, it wasn't just a mass expulsion from all the Arab states. There were definitely push factors. There were also pull factors.
I also think it's interesting that like when you analyze the flight of Jewish people, and I've seen this, that it wasn't just, I agree with you, it wasn't just a mass expulsion from all the Arab states. There were definitely push factors. There were also pull factors.
Now, I don't know how you guys feel about the Nakba, but when the analysis of the Nakba comes in, again, it's back to that, well, that was actually just a top-down expulsion. You know, the retreat of wealthy Arab people in the 30s didn't matter. Any of the messaging from the surrounding Arab states didn't matter.
Now, I don't know how you guys feel about the Nakba, but when the analysis of the Nakba comes in, again, it's back to that, well, that was actually just a top-down expulsion. You know, the retreat of wealthy Arab people in the 30s didn't matter. Any of the messaging from the surrounding Arab states didn't matter.
Now, I don't know how you guys feel about the Nakba, but when the analysis of the Nakba comes in, again, it's back to that, well, that was actually just a top-down expulsion. You know, the retreat of wealthy Arab people in the 30s didn't matter. Any of the messaging from the surrounding Arab states didn't matter.
It was just an expulsion from Jewish people or people running from their lives from Jewish massacres. Again, I feel like it's that selective critical analysis of theβ
It was just an expulsion from Jewish people or people running from their lives from Jewish massacres. Again, I feel like it's that selective critical analysis of theβ
It was just an expulsion from Jewish people or people running from their lives from Jewish massacres. Again, I feel like it's that selective critical analysis of theβ
We don't need to implicate. Well, sure, but the Jewish people that were being attacked in Arab states weren't Zionists, they were just Jews living there, right?
We don't need to implicate. Well, sure, but the Jewish people that were being attacked in Arab states weren't Zionists, they were just Jews living there, right?
We don't need to implicate. Well, sure, but the Jewish people that were being attacked in Arab states weren't Zionists, they were just Jews living there, right?
And they wrote that the Jews in the Arab lands were not pro-Zionist. They weren't Zionist at all. Certainly Avishlaim's family was anti-Zionist.
And they wrote that the Jews in the Arab lands were not pro-Zionist. They weren't Zionist at all. Certainly Avishlaim's family was anti-Zionist.