Steven Bonnell (Destiny)
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first heard Mar 2024
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That number probably dies in Israel of starvation also.
There isn't. There isn't in the Gaza Strip either.
I don't think it's engineered. I think if the Hamas stopped shooting, perhaps... As you said, engineered.
That's what they did. But you were pushed on this by Coleman Hughes to bring up an example of why is the Gaza Strip? By what metric are they starving? By what metric is it so behind the rest of the world? You know, if we're going to bring up... I want to hear an answer to that because you didn't answer it before.
You use that as justification for Hamas fighting. You say the conditions were unlivable. They had to fight. Yeah, I said to him... So my question is, what made it unlivable prior to October 7th? What are the metrics that you're using?
He's not going to answer again.
You don't know or you don't care. Okay, that's fine.
Ranked countries that we can still measure infant mortality, life expectancy. Yeah, we can measure all of these things.
You mean all of Palestine? Is that what you mean?
And what I was... Those are inalienable rights.
Do you think there has to be a resettlement of the five or six million, whoever wants to lay claim to being a senator?
That's what I meant with my earlier comments about white supremacy. So my issue, that's great, the white supremacy comment. Well, hold on, let me respond.
My issue is that I feel like we have jumped on this euphemistic treadmill, and I think that's part of the reason why this conflict will never get solved, is because on one end, you've got a people who are now convinced internationally that they're victims of apartheid, genocide,
concentration camp conditions, ethnic cleansing, they're forced to live in an open-air prison, with all of these things that are stacked against them, all of these terms that are highly specific, that refer to very precise things.
I don't know if – But who does think that Arab states not giving – The problem is you're morally loading. For you, apartheid is when racists do bad things.
No. There's a definition of apartheid. That's great. There's a very clear definition of apartheid. But the specific top-down racial domination enacted through top-down like federal legislative policies or whatever means that I don't know if – I don't know if Jim Crow would have qualified for apartheid. That doesn't make it any less, excuse me, Finkelstein, I'm talking right now.
Excuse me, excuse me, Finkelstein, I'm talking to your friend over here. I don't know if it would have qualified as the crime of apartheid. Just like if Israel were to literally nuke the Gaza Strip and kill two million people, I don't know if that would qualify for the crime of genocide.
I don't. Well, yeah, but because genocide requires a special intent. I think the issue is instead of and I think this conversation is actually is emblematic of the entire conversation. I don't think anything.
Well, sure. But you accused me of supporting racism. So, yeah, I did. And you are. I did. Do you think I support Jim Crow laws? Look, when the fact that you can't even answer that, honestly, it doesn't matter what you say that 800 civilians were killed by Hamas. You said, well, maybe 400 were killed by Israel. No, I don't know the number. Maybe you said 400. You co-signed the opinion.
No, I didn't. No, I didn't. Well, wait, how many? I think the word was some. That's what I heard. Well, you weren't listening. How many people do you think approximately if you had to ballpark it, how many do you think were killed by Hamas? On October 7th.
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