Steven Curtis Chapman

And then, of course, the pressure that puts on her to go, oh, great, I'm going to be the one responsible for completely demolishing a God-calling career.

Yeah, no pressure there.

So there's a lot of layers of hard to that.

And I foolishly can see now, and it's really taken, I mean, this is not something I figured out in 10 years, it's 40 years almost, and still figuring it out that, boy, if only we could get to the right conference, if we only read the right book, the right counselor could just fix us and tell me, give me the workbook, give me the thing to do, I'll do it.

And both of us that way, and realizing we are so much more

complicated, complex.

And the truth is, you know, what God, what Ms.

Oswald Chambers, you know, says, what we call the process, God calls the end.

You know, we want to see it as, you know, we just want to find that end, that fix.

And God says, hey, trust me and do the next thing and keep trusting me.

And this journey is where I'm going to show up.

And it's going to be way more

way more complicated because you're not, you know, you are two sinful people trying to love each other and be on the journey.

And there is not going to be a fix for this.

It's called heaven.

You're longing for that.

And that's a great longing, but you got to keep longing for that and realize that what is it?

you know, what's it going to be like to show up today and keep loving each other and bearing with one another and the ways you're going to disappoint each other and hurt each other?

And can you keep doing that and trusting me, you know, for the grace that you're going to need to keep doing that?

And that's a lot of the marriage books and things even that we would get just set us up for disappointment because it's like, man,