Steven Curtis Chapman

We're on page 10, and we've already screwed up everything on every page.

We haven't done the date night right.

We haven't done this right.

We can't seem to get that together.

And then there's just more shame and more, well, we've just screwed this up, I guess.

We're never going to make it.

Yeah, I think it...

It's interesting.

When you said that, I thought about the one counselor who, you know, so go unnamed.

I think you're beyond... We don't even know why you're still married.

Good for you, but we got nothing else to help you.

I'm like, well, okay.

Thank you for being honest enough to tell us that.

But I was going to say there was one who...

who's now passed on as with Jesus, but told me that I prayed, Chapman, you prayed too much.

You need to stop praying so much.

Which was like, okay, well, what in the world?

But to your point of if prayer is an avoidance to say, hey, I just need to keep praying,

just keep talking to God about, well, but what are you praying?

Because the reality is, I think early on in our, and I'm totally owning this, I'm telling on myself and exposing my stupidity was praying and using prayer as an opportunity for me to still keep