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Steven Hahn

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The Ezra Klein Show
The Very American Roots of Trumpism

But I think a modern reader, by and large, who knew anything about the history of the United States and of Native people would recognize what he was really after.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Very American Roots of Trumpism

But I think a modern reader, by and large, who knew anything about the history of the United States and of Native people would recognize what he was really after.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Very American Roots of Trumpism

Right. I think he saw himself as representing the interests of white Americans in the trans Appalachian West, who themselves were in the process of trying to expand their population and settlements, which would be at the expense of Native people. And so, in a sense, what Jackson really represented was, you know, he was the first president from the Trans-Appalachian West.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Very American Roots of Trumpism

Right. I think he saw himself as representing the interests of white Americans in the trans Appalachian West, who themselves were in the process of trying to expand their population and settlements, which would be at the expense of Native people. And so, in a sense, what Jackson really represented was, you know, he was the first president from the Trans-Appalachian West.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Very American Roots of Trumpism

He had strong support among white adults, white adult men from that area and also from the southern states because he was a slave owner and he was committed to the maintenance of slavery. So, you know, at the same time, access to politics in the in terms of voting and office holding, property holding requirements were being dropped. And so adult white men had more access than ever.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Very American Roots of Trumpism

He had strong support among white adults, white adult men from that area and also from the southern states because he was a slave owner and he was committed to the maintenance of slavery. So, you know, at the same time, access to politics in the in terms of voting and office holding, property holding requirements were being dropped. And so adult white men had more access than ever.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Very American Roots of Trumpism

And so even though in most places people of African descent didn't, women didn't, in some ways the workforce in many, many places didn't because they were made up of women and children. But nonetheless, there was kind of this sense that the groundwork for what would be an expanse of democracy was being laid then.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Very American Roots of Trumpism

And so even though in most places people of African descent didn't, women didn't, in some ways the workforce in many, many places didn't because they were made up of women and children. But nonetheless, there was kind of this sense that the groundwork for what would be an expanse of democracy was being laid then.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Very American Roots of Trumpism

Well, I think there are a number of things that they could connect to. Not least was his defiance of Supreme Court rulings on the potential expulsion of Native people. You know, he said, OK, that's fine. Let them enforce it. I think they see him as a quote-unquote strong leader who was willing and able and interested in moving directions of his own choosing.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Very American Roots of Trumpism

Well, I think there are a number of things that they could connect to. Not least was his defiance of Supreme Court rulings on the potential expulsion of Native people. You know, he said, OK, that's fine. Let them enforce it. I think they see him as a quote-unquote strong leader who was willing and able and interested in moving directions of his own choosing.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Very American Roots of Trumpism

Obviously, he had a very complicated relationship with the federal government, but he stood up very strongly because the nullification crisis in the 1830s when South Carolina said, unlike Jackson's view of the Supreme Court, no, we're not going to enforce the tariff. Jackson threatened to really crush them militarily as well as politically.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Very American Roots of Trumpism

Obviously, he had a very complicated relationship with the federal government, but he stood up very strongly because the nullification crisis in the 1830s when South Carolina said, unlike Jackson's view of the Supreme Court, no, we're not going to enforce the tariff. Jackson threatened to really crush them militarily as well as politically.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Very American Roots of Trumpism

So I think they see him as, you know, an example of an early executive who was interested in expanding the powers of the presidency at a time when the president of the United States really had relatively few powers. And, you know, the important power remained in the states and nationally in the Congress.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Very American Roots of Trumpism

So I think they see him as, you know, an example of an early executive who was interested in expanding the powers of the presidency at a time when the president of the United States really had relatively few powers. And, you know, the important power remained in the states and nationally in the Congress.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Very American Roots of Trumpism

And I think they saw him as a harbinger of what would happen later and what Trump clearly admires.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Very American Roots of Trumpism

And I think they saw him as a harbinger of what would happen later and what Trump clearly admires.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Very American Roots of Trumpism

Well, the Pomerades are called the Pomerades because the Attorney General of the United States was A. Mitchell Palmer. I think it was an example of how people who were regarded by those in power as politically objectionable

The Ezra Klein Show
The Very American Roots of Trumpism

Well, the Pomerades are called the Pomerades because the Attorney General of the United States was A. Mitchell Palmer. I think it was an example of how people who were regarded by those in power as politically objectionable

The Ezra Klein Show
The Very American Roots of Trumpism

could suffer all sorts of forms of repression, including expulsions of various sorts that included people who were isolationists, but it's also included people who were on the left, first socialists who had a complicated history with that, and then after the Russian Revolution, people who were associated with the spread of communism.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Very American Roots of Trumpism

could suffer all sorts of forms of repression, including expulsions of various sorts that included people who were isolationists, but it's also included people who were on the left, first socialists who had a complicated history with that, and then after the Russian Revolution, people who were associated with the spread of communism.