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Steven Hahn

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The Ezra Klein Show
The Very American Roots of Trumpism

were those who quite simply did not fit into their view of what the United States should be, which is a republic of white Christians. And in that particular time, the federal government became involved in in the repression of these movements and whether it involved prosecuting them. I mean, Eugene Debs ran for president from jail.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Very American Roots of Trumpism

were those who quite simply did not fit into their view of what the United States should be, which is a republic of white Christians. And in that particular time, the federal government became involved in in the repression of these movements and whether it involved prosecuting them. I mean, Eugene Debs ran for president from jail.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Very American Roots of Trumpism

Or whether it had to do with expelling them, not only communists and socialists, but people who were accused of Anarchism, Asako and Vanzetti, you know, became a very notorious example of how that could happen. It's important to recognize that the Ku Klux Klan was in the process of reorganizing in this period. It was reestablished during the teens, but it really exploded later.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Very American Roots of Trumpism

Or whether it had to do with expelling them, not only communists and socialists, but people who were accused of Anarchism, Asako and Vanzetti, you know, became a very notorious example of how that could happen. It's important to recognize that the Ku Klux Klan was in the process of reorganizing in this period. It was reestablished during the teens, but it really exploded later.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Very American Roots of Trumpism

in the 1920s, and it fed off a lot of these currents. It admired fascist regimes elsewhere. It admired the sort of political violence and paramilitarism that went into it. You know, one of the things that they did was enforce prohibition, which they regarded as an attack on the life ways of European immigrants and others who were not white Christians.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Very American Roots of Trumpism

in the 1920s, and it fed off a lot of these currents. It admired fascist regimes elsewhere. It admired the sort of political violence and paramilitarism that went into it. You know, one of the things that they did was enforce prohibition, which they regarded as an attack on the life ways of European immigrants and others who were not white Christians.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Very American Roots of Trumpism

Well, one of the things I try to do in the book, which is recognizing that illiberalism is not one thing. It's not an unchanging, static thing. It's a collection of ideas and notions of relationships or political power. is to think about how illiberalism was modernized during what we call the progressive period.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Very American Roots of Trumpism

Well, one of the things I try to do in the book, which is recognizing that illiberalism is not one thing. It's not an unchanging, static thing. It's a collection of ideas and notions of relationships or political power. is to think about how illiberalism was modernized during what we call the progressive period.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Very American Roots of Trumpism

And there, the idea of social engineering, the use of eugenics, which is oftentimes not adequately accounted for by historians of the period, disfranchisement, segregation, warfare overseas that was justified in racialized terms, the use of troops who basically got their experience in Indian wars in the Trans-Mississippi West, and the idea that was advocated by people.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Very American Roots of Trumpism

And there, the idea of social engineering, the use of eugenics, which is oftentimes not adequately accounted for by historians of the period, disfranchisement, segregation, warfare overseas that was justified in racialized terms, the use of troops who basically got their experience in Indian wars in the Trans-Mississippi West, and the idea that was advocated by people.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Very American Roots of Trumpism

Herbert Crowley is a good example because he was one of the founders of the New Republic. He was one of the advocates of Teddy Roosevelt's New Nationalism. And yet he was very suspicious of what he called Jeffersonian democracy.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Very American Roots of Trumpism

Herbert Crowley is a good example because he was one of the founders of the New Republic. He was one of the advocates of Teddy Roosevelt's New Nationalism. And yet he was very suspicious of what he called Jeffersonian democracy.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Very American Roots of Trumpism

He thought that many people in the United States didn't understand the national purpose and that therefore politics really should be conducted by those who were trained, by those who were experts.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Very American Roots of Trumpism

He thought that many people in the United States didn't understand the national purpose and that therefore politics really should be conducted by those who were trained, by those who were experts.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Very American Roots of Trumpism

So I do think that without saying that the United States was moving in a Nazi direction, I mean, there were people, obviously, who in the 1930s very much embraced what was going on in Germany on many accounts. There were many people in the 20s and into the early 30s who thought that Mussolini was really pointing out the future that the Euro-Atlantic world was headed towards.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Very American Roots of Trumpism

So I do think that without saying that the United States was moving in a Nazi direction, I mean, there were people, obviously, who in the 1930s very much embraced what was going on in Germany on many accounts. There were many people in the 20s and into the early 30s who thought that Mussolini was really pointing out the future that the Euro-Atlantic world was headed towards.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Very American Roots of Trumpism

Because he seemed to be somebody who was active, engaged, strong, and recognized the limitations of a kind of the liberal state that had really fallen into real question. You know, the Klan was the largest social movement in the 1920s, and their ideas about what the United States would be, it was an early America Firstism. I mean, that's really where it emerges.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Very American Roots of Trumpism

Because he seemed to be somebody who was active, engaged, strong, and recognized the limitations of a kind of the liberal state that had really fallen into real question. You know, the Klan was the largest social movement in the 1920s, and their ideas about what the United States would be, it was an early America Firstism. I mean, that's really where it emerges.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Very American Roots of Trumpism

And so, again, I think that without necessarily saying that this was Italian fascism or this was Nazi, which it wasn't. But to say that some of the ideas, some of the connections, and the overall project, the sense of who really should be participating in this, who shouldn't be participating.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Very American Roots of Trumpism

And so, again, I think that without necessarily saying that this was Italian fascism or this was Nazi, which it wasn't. But to say that some of the ideas, some of the connections, and the overall project, the sense of who really should be participating in this, who shouldn't be participating.