Steven Holloway

We don't just take the money and run, which means the people and sponsors around us are generally good ones.

I personally would also like to invite any sponsor that thinks like that to give us a call and come on board.

Kind of joking, kind of not joking.

Zach's seen an opportunity to shoot a shot.

But no dickheads policy.

That seems to me like an ethos that, yes, for that, but also for you in life.

You don't really have time for dickheads.

You don't sort of suffer fools.

I want to take us back to the start.

But first, I want to provide a little framing for the listeners.

So you're currently in your 12th season in the NBA across four franchises.

First, it was Oklahoma City Thunder alongside Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook and James Harden.

And you developed from a raw 19-year-old into one of the most physically dominant centers in the league, a genuine fan favorite.

Then a single COVID-disrupted season with the New Orleans Pelicans, onto the Memphis Grizzlies, which was cut short through injury, and now the Houston Rockets, where you're currently recovering from another season-ending injury, but under contract until 2028, which is quite a ride.

But I want to go back to the beginning of the journey.

So you're youngest of 14 kids in Rotorua, but a bit of a complicated dynamic.

I sort of wanted to open it with how do you reflect on your childhood and the early days?

Can you tell us about your late father, Sid, who stood 6'11 tall?

It's obviously where the family got the height genes from.

But can you tell us about him as a man and what you learned from him and what he was like?