Steven Holloway

But hopefully, if all goes well, they'll join for the second part of the tour.

And then if the All Whites manage to get out of the group, then we'll wave off goodbye.

And I think the real chaos will start if they get to that knockout stage, which will be a fun puzzle to figure out on the road.

There was three.

There was three.

Are you talking about me as like multiple characters?

Shaking the difficult characters.

No, it's not far off the mark.

Yes, but also what an amazing time to be starting a new project with like the most – I think this is the most ridiculous time in the last six years of huge projects, lots of different moving pieces, heaps to learn in a really short space of time.

It's an amazing baptism of fire, I think, because –

Touch wood.

I don't know if we'll ever be this busy again in the future.

Maybe we will.

But I love that you shot a look straight across at her.

I'm pretty sure we will.

It's like a blueprint.

But it's an incredible blueprint to get an understanding under the hood about how everything works and how quickly things can happen in our world as well, which we've had six years of getting used to.

Yeah, plus that dynamic, like the office dynamic changes again.

I mean, I've even started driving to Auckland with Stephen in the same car because there's three people that can have a conversation, not just two, so it's good.

It is.