Steven Holloway

But it's an incredible blueprint to get an understanding under the hood about how everything works and how quickly things can happen in our world as well, which we've had six years of getting used to.

Yeah, plus that dynamic, like the office dynamic changes again.

I mean, I've even started driving to Auckland with Stephen in the same car because there's three people that can have a conversation, not just two, so it's good.

It is.

Petual prices as well.

Come on, guys.

We've got Waitomo looking after us, but still.

Yeah.

That was the most intimidated I'd been by a guest in a long time.

I think everything, like physically he's an imposing character because there's not too many seven footers walking around in everyday life.

I think I wanted to, like Stephen probably, wanted to do a very good job of it and thought if we do do a very good job of this, the potential spinoff is really, really positive.

And yeah, I don't know, just three, it's not every day you get to meet someone who is at the very peak of their powers in one of the best sporting environments in the world and probably is...

It doesn't need to record an interview with us, but chose to.

So wanting to respect the time, knowing that he had a flight to catch, like those sorts of things.

And it culminated in me not being able to speak for the first five minutes of interview or ask a proper question.

But it was an awesome afternoon.

And not just for us, like...

Stephen referenced the team before, but awesome for Marcus and Adam and other people to come in and share in that experience too.

Yeah.

Cool day.