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Steven Kotler

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224 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

Yeah, so I like I I can't like I really I think AI is fake I like yeah here you guys comments and I'm like if you you know the other day your podcast made the comment that And you think I don't listen

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

that you went out and asked a bunch of 10 CEOs, how long until an AI is smarter than your best 10 employees?

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

And their answer was, oh, it's there now.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

And I listened to that and went, well, then their 10 best employees must be fucking morons.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

Because my experience working with AI on a daily basis is this machine doesn't know shit.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

I spend more time trying to teach it how to write than watching it write.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

I spend more time fixing the AI.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

And as a scientist,

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

I think it's absurd as well.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

I'm doing neuroscience with it, and I'm watching the AI, which is supposed to know every fucking thing there is about neuroscience, miss huge gaps in huge fields.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

It's a convergent thinking engine.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

It doesn't do divergence.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

And most of the breakthroughs are never true.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

So I think this is, I mean, it's the future of humanity.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

I'll take the high road on this one.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

By the way, I'm opinionated, and nobody much likes me.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

Oh, wait, I forgot we had a live audience.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

Here's the counter to this.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

And this, I think, is the difference between coming at it as a writer or an artist or a creative versus coming at it as a coder.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

It hasn't gotten better.