Steven Pack

You have to find your node operator.

They have to do things with a safe.

Like it's still a little bit like of work to do.

So we've really, we're actually wrapping that up into a rock solid interface in terms of security and being simple.

And we pride ourselves on offering like single click access to DeFi.

So wrapping that up into a product, we're still working on the name.

The bad name is dedicated liquidity staking vaults.

But it's this concept that if you're an ETH holder and you're staking, but you do value access to liquidity.

either because you're holding on behalf of others and they need to redeem, or maybe it's your own balance sheet, but you want to use some of the ETH to participate in DeFi, this product allows you to do that.

So you can deposit ETH, you tell us who the node operator is or will default to peer-to,

because, you know, they're our partner and they're amazing.

And we can offer that like immediate liquidity into S2Eth when you need it.

And so it's the, you know, solves both problems.

So yeah, we're utilizing this infrastructure, not just to create that sort of leverage staking vault, but just to offer like a personalized single vault to any large ETH holder that says, yeah, I want a stake, but I want liquidity.

So yeah, if that's you, dear listener, reach out, you know, via Twitter or on our website at work.

And I think that's going to be a popular product because that's actually one thing I'll mention like industry wise.

You know, there was a time when liquid staking growth was just up and to the right and it looked like it was going to go forever.

And there was all this sort of concern about, you know, especially Lido controlling too much of market share.

But actually what's happened in the last decade

sort of two years has been like native staking has grown massively at the expense of liquid staking.