Steven Pack

Yeah.

I mean, so we do, we have a great partnership with a curator called Tulipa Capital.

They're based in Europe, manage a bunch of funds.

So it's a kind of sort of organic process actually with them.

They're kind of our ears and eyes and ears on chain, like looking at things like what incentive campaigns are running, like what L2s are seeking liquidity, what protocols on mainnet are seeking liquidity.

And so they're doing that, we're doing that.

But also we've kind of become this almost like a quasi BD arm for Rocketpool, right?

Like not official, like we're not officially designated as this.

But the fact is like we control like more REs

than most really like, or maybe than any, I don't know, that are looking to deploy it in this way.

And so we're actually able to, you know, go to protocols and say like, hey, we've got our ETH and either secure good deals for our depositors.

Unfortunately, or maybe not unfortunately, this is just natural.

Most protocols do seek ETH like, you know, or wrapped ETH, you know, more than our ETH.

Like despite our ETH being, you know,

Like a great asset, it's like over a billion dollars in TVL.

It doesn't quite have the reach of ETH or even state to ETH.

But that's one of the things we're trying to change.

Like as we grow, we get that bit more negotiating leverage to say, well, we will come, but only if it's denominated in our ETH.

And, you know, just that's a, that's a process, right?

Like getting more protocols, accepting our ETH and getting our ammunition even higher.