Steven Pope

And one of the things I really like about Alex and nobody does this better than

than him in 2026.

He's the Dan Kennedy of our time.

But in here, he takes something like a two-by-two concept.

like a four-step process, every business type, e-commerce, service, education, software, right?

And each of these has a different line.

This video is incredible.

Mind you, only has a quarter million hits, whereas something like his Tony Robbins interview had 1.3 million.

People are really interested in what Tony Robbins has to say about suffering.

And both of these videos, I've watched them.

They're very good.

I've even replayed them, which is why you don't see my red all the way through.

I'm a really big Alex Ramosi fan.

I've probably watched just as much content from Stephen Bartlett.

Stephen's content is more long form.

So if I had to guess, I've probably watched about 100 hours of content on both of these dudes in one shape or another.

Stephen has a very different approach.

Right.

I would say politically, Stephen claims he's a middle of the road moderate, but he's definitely on the left side of the spectrum.

And he brings on guests from the full spectrum, to be clear.