Steven Pope

And what I like about Stephen is that he brings on guests and just lets them talk.

He does share his perspective.

He does insert some ideology, but it's minimal.

It's like it's bearable to listen to if you don't agree with him.

And he does a very good job at just letting guests come on and talk.

He's so so if we had to get if we had to, like, analyze what made Stephen so successful, it was because he's a great interviewer.

It wasn't because he was a great presenter.

Now, he could be a good presenter, but he's a great interviewer.

And the guests that he's been able to bring on, it's insane.

Like former CEOs of Google, he's interviewed the Obamas, he's interviewed all kinds of people.

Just insane, insane, insane.

And the content is like super long, two-hour interviews in a studio.

Alex is more of a presenter, right?

Both these guys are probably introverts.

And what's really interesting is that some people confuse that introverts aren't good presenters, but they really are.

They're actually better than extroverts at presenting introverts.

Extroverts are better at engaging.

And so it's interesting to kind of see this.

But if I had to guess the personality profiles of these two men, Alex is going to be impatient.

He's going to be very intense.