Steven Pope

Come on.

So during the forest times, I would be putting on the podcast.

I would put it in my pocket.

I would walk in the forest.

I'd look around.

I'd get an idea, and I'd immediately write it down.

I'd immediately send a DM to my employee.

I would immediately call an executive.

And then I'd go back to my walk, and I would walk for about an hour every day.

I got a dog to help me with that.

I did give up the dog during the divorce.

That was challenging.

You spend a year getting a dog trained and in a routine, and then a divorce happens, and you're no longer doing your normal routine in the house that you were at next to the forest that you purchased so you could walk in, and your life is just all of a sudden different.

You know, those are the things that happen in life, right?

This is, by the way, this is not a boo-hoo Steven story.

I've already told you I led with, I've succeeded in life and I'm trying to reinvent myself, right?

Everybody has a Phoenix moment.

Mine is right now.

I am here to tell you that most of my life prior to 2025 was easy.

And now it's hard.