Steven Pope

Design work is a really recent one.

The design staff used to be like 55 employees.

I think we're closer to 30 at this moment, maybe a tad lower.

We cut 11 roles who couldn't adopt AI or resisted adopting AI.

And we foresee that graphic design roles will not necessarily be about the design elements.

It'll be about the ability to use the tools.

So you could take a guy like John Aspinall, who has no design background, and he outmaneuvers designers with better results based on tech adoption.

I think that's the future of design.

And that's going to put a lot of design schools out of business.

And I think that's OK.

you know, those jobs will transfer some way, somehow.

So I think that's a big one.

Another big one was the programming of websites, programming of tech.

And this is where we're seeing most of the layoffs in online right now, whether it's Facebook, Google, et cetera.

Seeing a lot of challenges

from companies that can now out-program with AI.

And it's very specifically usually based in cloud.

Cloud is being seen as the enterprise tool.

We can spin up a website in two hours that's good enough to go.

So like, for example, I come up with the idea that we're going to start selling a CRM billing software, et cetera, to lawyers.