Steven Rinella

I'm figuring out this right way to live.

It's all in the book.

We don't have to really get like into the weeds on that right now.

But what you need to know is that Chapman was a strong believer in Swedenborgism.

100%.

100% it's Christian.

Got it.

100% it's Christian.

And they have actually somewhat progressive views for the time.

They really didn't believe in slavery.

Okay.

They were early abolitionists.

One might say they almost pedestaled what you might say like Native Americans and other kind of like,

Around the world, people that were not living in the European style, almost maybe to a way where that feels weird too.

But they had really eccentric viewpoints on a lot of different issues of the day.

But one thing was the harder your life was in this realm, the easier your life would be in the next, which is a very classic religious thing, right?

Now, there are still practicing Swedenborgians here in the United States.

Really?

Yes.

They have a giant, beautiful cathedral in Bryn Athyn, Pennsylvania, outside of Philadelphia.