Steven Rinella

Criminalizing activities like hunting and fishing would be wrong for Oregon.

I know tribal leaders, family, farmers and ranchers and Oregonians across the state who care deeply about protecting our land, waters and wildlife.

This petition does nothing to help them.

And it risks criminalizing common agricultural practices that are critical to Oregon's economy.

Oh, okay.

I believe that we can have an honest conversation about responsible conservation and animal welfare without attacking... That's... There's a little... Like...

This is an iHeart Podcast.

Guaranteed human.

but I don't know about.

No, you probably know the Disney-fied version.

You know the version that they teach you in elementary school.

But he is an American legend, but he was a real guy.

His name was John Chapman.

That's one of the things I love about him.

When I first brought it up to the woman that's now my wife, I was thinking about writing a book about him.

I said, Johnny Appleseed, he was this great walker.

He was kind of into faith.

I'm kind of coming back into faith a little bit in my life.

And she was like,

he's not a real dude yeah and she's like paul bunyan paco spill and i was like those are real guys yeah i was like those are not real dudes you're right you're right but johnny appleseed was a real guy named john chapman born around the revolutionary war so i wanted to kind of walk where he walked and explore the country um i want to start out by telling you might not realize who you're in the presence of this is um johnny johnny spencer or you could call him spencer appleseed yeah