Steven Spielberg

Once the smartphone came into real existence with the iPhone, everything kind of changed.

There was just a lot of information.

People were starting to come forward.

And, you know, the witnesses have been coming forward ever since Roswell.

So it's not that everything started in 2017.

I guess when Helene Cooper and Ralph Blumenthal and Leslie Keen wrote their story, all of a sudden, because it was the New York Times, because they gave the story such prominence,

Everybody suddenly started to wake up from the National Enquirer sensationalized reportage about UFOs.

Suddenly, this was an august paper, perhaps sensational.

one of the greatest papers, giving us this information.

We prefer the greatest, but thank you, yes.

Yes, the greatest.

But I really feel that things started to get into the mainstream.

And then after that, there was a lot, a lot of documentaries were being made, and I saw all of them.

Every doc made about this.

And you can't make a doc unless people come forward.

Now, it's not under oath, but a lot of people from Congress, from the military, started coming forward.

Well, to that point, there are some very famous whistleblowers that have come forward, as you're saying.

There was one actually in Helene Cooper's story that you mentioned.

Yes.

And I did wonder, in addition to watching all these documentaries, and it sounds like coming to the belief that aliens were real, perhaps more so than when you made earlier alien films, did you actually talk to any of those whistleblowers in preparation for this?