Steven Zuber

I don't know that it's important to disentangle them all that much because the claim that I have a soul and the Earth is 9,000 years old or whatever, those claims, that's a huge jump from one to the other.

But if we're focusing on, again, arguing, we just did the whole sequences on use of language and definitions and whatnot.

But the idea of this inner spark, the thing that makes me me and the thing that knows that, that is kind of the core idea.

And I've never been hyper religious.

Maybe you're good.

You know, you know, you're Jehovah's Witness.

Maybe this is something you could speak to more.

But it isn't.

Is that part of what was taught as like the magic of the soul?

You know, if you zoom out a little bit from what they explicitly were saying.

Oh me.

Yeah.

I mean, you know, just in the, the old days of the, the new atheist wars online.

Yeah.

We haven't talked about recursion much, if at all yet, but we should get to that right after this.

Yeah.

No, just, just basically I, I'm much more amenable to use the word soul now than I would have been 15 years ago.

I think it is perfectly appropriate.

And while there might be some room for misunderstanding, um,

If you don't explain where you're coming from, if you're just talking with a whole new audience, if you were to get up in front of a congregation at church and start talking about the soul and from this perspective, you'd be ripe for misunderstanding.