Steven

So it's always the case that the world that we're living in today feels especially fragile and especially uncertain. And I think historically, it's not. It's uncertain and fragile in its own unique new way. But it's always the case that it feels like the world used to be great. We used to have it, and now it's not anymore.

There's a great Jon Stewart quote where he says, the reason the world felt like a better place during your childhood is because you were a child. And just because we know how the story ended, it makes it feel like today is a very uncertain place, even if it's kind of par for the course historically.

There's a great Jon Stewart quote where he says, the reason the world felt like a better place during your childhood is because you were a child. And just because we know how the story ended, it makes it feel like today is a very uncertain place, even if it's kind of par for the course historically.

One thing that I, this was not necessarily changing my mind as it was just kind of growing as an adult was when I was in my twenties, I really valued travel and getting out and seeing the world as you should in your twenties. When I became a father, I valued being at home with my kids. And it's almost like, In my 20s, a terrible night would be at home on the couch. That's a failed night.

One thing that I, this was not necessarily changing my mind as it was just kind of growing as an adult was when I was in my twenties, I really valued travel and getting out and seeing the world as you should in your twenties. When I became a father, I valued being at home with my kids. And it's almost like, In my 20s, a terrible night would be at home on the couch. That's a failed night.

And in my 30s, there's nothing, or in my 40s now, there's nothing better than being at home on the living room floor playing Legos with my kids. Nothing better. So that was a shift in values, but it wasn't because I changed my mind. It's just a different state of life.

And in my 30s, there's nothing, or in my 40s now, there's nothing better than being at home on the living room floor playing Legos with my kids. Nothing better. So that was a shift in values, but it wasn't because I changed my mind. It's just a different state of life.

virtually no one else on the planet can do it better than you.

virtually no one else on the planet can do it better than you.

Speaking about our early experiences, the first word in the sort of subtitle of your book is the word trauma. It's a word that I've, I've talked about a lot on this podcast. And I've, you know, I've had a lot of people here that have opened up about their traumas. How do you define trauma? I know society has defined it in its own way. But how do you define it?

Speaking about our early experiences, the first word in the sort of subtitle of your book is the word trauma. It's a word that I've, I've talked about a lot on this podcast. And I've, you know, I've had a lot of people here that have opened up about their traumas. How do you define trauma? I know society has defined it in its own way. But how do you define it?

And I was trying to figure out how many people as a percentage of the population have trauma. But then I read this stat that 60% of adults say that they've had sort of a traumatic early upbringing or whatever or traumatic events from their childhood. But then I thought maybe everybody has trauma.

And I was trying to figure out how many people as a percentage of the population have trauma. But then I read this stat that 60% of adults say that they've had sort of a traumatic early upbringing or whatever or traumatic events from their childhood. But then I thought maybe everybody has trauma.

From sitting here and speaking to, I don't know, somewhere over a hundred different people that come from all walks of life, but specifically people that are successful in their industries. And you talked about, you know, how an anomalous early upbringing can create sort of abnormality in an adult.

From sitting here and speaking to, I don't know, somewhere over a hundred different people that come from all walks of life, but specifically people that are successful in their industries. And you talked about, you know, how an anomalous early upbringing can create sort of abnormality in an adult.

A lot of the people I sit here are successful because of some kind of abnormality or at least their interpretation of some kind of early event that caused them to have some sort of abnormal belief about themselves that they're not enough. So they become a billionaire or a gold medalist or whatever it might be.

A lot of the people I sit here are successful because of some kind of abnormality or at least their interpretation of some kind of early event that caused them to have some sort of abnormal belief about themselves that they're not enough. So they become a billionaire or a gold medalist or whatever it might be.

One of the things that I thought I could predict is I thought I could, if they told me, I thought after doing a hundred episodes, if they told me the traumatic event they'd been through, I could predict the outcome in them. But there's a disconnect there because, you know, I'd sit here with a guest who went through one of your capital T traumas, like domestic violence.

One of the things that I thought I could predict is I thought I could, if they told me, I thought after doing a hundred episodes, if they told me the traumatic event they'd been through, I could predict the outcome in them. But there's a disconnect there because, you know, I'd sit here with a guest who went through one of your capital T traumas, like domestic violence.

And one of them might become incredibly angry.