Steven

Speaking about our early experiences, the first word in the sort of subtitle of your book is the word trauma. It's a word that I've, I've talked about a lot on this podcast. And I've, you know, I've had a lot of people here that have opened up about their traumas. How do you define trauma? I know society has defined it in its own way. But how do you define it?

Speaking about our early experiences, the first word in the sort of subtitle of your book is the word trauma. It's a word that I've, I've talked about a lot on this podcast. And I've, you know, I've had a lot of people here that have opened up about their traumas. How do you define trauma? I know society has defined it in its own way. But how do you define it?

And I was trying to figure out how many people as a percentage of the population have trauma. But then I read this stat that 60% of adults say that they've had sort of a traumatic early upbringing or whatever or traumatic events from their childhood. But then I thought maybe everybody has trauma.

And I was trying to figure out how many people as a percentage of the population have trauma. But then I read this stat that 60% of adults say that they've had sort of a traumatic early upbringing or whatever or traumatic events from their childhood. But then I thought maybe everybody has trauma.

From sitting here and speaking to, I don't know, somewhere over a hundred different people that come from all walks of life, but specifically people that are successful in their industries. And you talked about, you know, how an anomalous early upbringing can create sort of abnormality in an adult.

From sitting here and speaking to, I don't know, somewhere over a hundred different people that come from all walks of life, but specifically people that are successful in their industries. And you talked about, you know, how an anomalous early upbringing can create sort of abnormality in an adult.

A lot of the people I sit here are successful because of some kind of abnormality or at least their interpretation of some kind of early event that caused them to have some sort of abnormal belief about themselves that they're not enough. So they become a billionaire or a gold medalist or whatever it might be.

A lot of the people I sit here are successful because of some kind of abnormality or at least their interpretation of some kind of early event that caused them to have some sort of abnormal belief about themselves that they're not enough. So they become a billionaire or a gold medalist or whatever it might be.

One of the things that I thought I could predict is I thought I could, if they told me, I thought after doing a hundred episodes, if they told me the traumatic event they'd been through, I could predict the outcome in them. But there's a disconnect there because, you know, I'd sit here with a guest who went through one of your capital T traumas, like domestic violence.

One of the things that I thought I could predict is I thought I could, if they told me, I thought after doing a hundred episodes, if they told me the traumatic event they'd been through, I could predict the outcome in them. But there's a disconnect there because, you know, I'd sit here with a guest who went through one of your capital T traumas, like domestic violence.

And one of them might become incredibly angry.

And one of them might become incredibly angry.

And one of them might become the most peaceful, loving person I've ever met.

And one of them might become the most peaceful, loving person I've ever met.

And that taught me that there's this thing in between the event, which is what you call interpretation.

And that taught me that there's this thing in between the event, which is what you call interpretation.

And I found that really, I found that as, that kind of makes it really difficult to diagnose. Yeah.

And I found that really, I found that as, that kind of makes it really difficult to diagnose. Yeah.

So one of the consequences of that early upbringing was it materialized itself as sort of addiction and the other got the same psychological reinforcement or the thing missing from power and work and money.

So one of the consequences of that early upbringing was it materialized itself as sort of addiction and the other got the same psychological reinforcement or the thing missing from power and work and money.