Steven

And how many crimes did you commit while you were a New York cop?

And still on the top line, just painting the picture here, before we get into the detail, what are the variety of crimes that you committed as a New York police officer?

And still on the top line, just painting the picture here, before we get into the detail, what are the variety of crimes that you committed as a New York police officer?

Did you steal someone's porn collection?

Did you steal someone's porn collection?

They were dead.

They were dead.

Wow. And you do originally train to become an accountant and drop out because of a woman, right? Yes. And you wanted to follow her. So you end up joining the Police Academy in 1982, 21 years old. Right. And when you joined the Police Academy, did you do it because you wanted to be a police officer? And because you wanted to serve and defend? No. That's not why I joined.

Wow. And you do originally train to become an accountant and drop out because of a woman, right? Yes. And you wanted to follow her. So you end up joining the Police Academy in 1982, 21 years old. Right. And when you joined the Police Academy, did you do it because you wanted to be a police officer? And because you wanted to serve and defend? No. That's not why I joined.

I joined because I wanted a job. Because you wanted a job. And so when you stood there and took that oath, did you mean it?

I joined because I wanted a job. Because you wanted a job. And so when you stood there and took that oath, did you mean it?

And as part of your training to become a police officer, you do some integrity training. Yes. Some like ethics training to make sure that police officers are like straight and narrow and understand ethics.

And as part of your training to become a police officer, you do some integrity training. Yes. Some like ethics training to make sure that police officers are like straight and narrow and understand ethics.

Okay. Like the fundamental issue if we don't trust law enforcement and the downstream consequences.

Okay. Like the fundamental issue if we don't trust law enforcement and the downstream consequences.

There was some kind of comment made at the end of your training by an internal affairs academy instructor, which basically said to be successful as a cop, don't follow these rules, the ethics rules that you were just given.

There was some kind of comment made at the end of your training by an internal affairs academy instructor, which basically said to be successful as a cop, don't follow these rules, the ethics rules that you were just given.

Okay.

Okay.

And the police all kind of agree that they won't snitch on each other? That's the general rule. And it's called, I read this term, the blue wall of silence. Yes, right.