Steven

And the police all kind of agree that they won't snitch on each other? That's the general rule. And it's called, I read this term, the blue wall of silence. Yes, right.

Because you need those other cops for your own personal survival.

Because you need those other cops for your own personal survival.

So you don't want to be snitching on other cops.

So you don't want to be snitching on other cops.

Who's looking to screw him?

Who's looking to screw him?

I mean, the whole time someone's against you. They're trying to find some kind of chink in your arm or something you did wrong.

I mean, the whole time someone's against you. They're trying to find some kind of chink in your arm or something you did wrong.

When we're thinking about the factors, the environmental factors that led you to make the decisions that you made, one of the big factors that I was looking into at the time was there was obviously this crack epidemic, but then it also seemed like the police at the time didn't actually want you to arrest people. Yes, that's correct.

When we're thinking about the factors, the environmental factors that led you to make the decisions that you made, one of the big factors that I was looking into at the time was there was obviously this crack epidemic, but then it also seemed like the police at the time didn't actually want you to arrest people. Yes, that's correct.

You did what? 43 arrests. You did 43 arrests in how many years?

You did what? 43 arrests. You did 43 arrests in how many years?

Okay. So about 90% of the things you should have arrested someone for, you didn't. Correct. Okay. And why weren't you making more arrests?

Okay. So about 90% of the things you should have arrested someone for, you didn't. Correct. Okay. And why weren't you making more arrests?

You would be paid for that? Paid time and a half. Okay, so then the department has to pay you more money if you do an arrest. And then process the arrest.

You would be paid for that? Paid time and a half. Okay, so then the department has to pay you more money if you do an arrest. And then process the arrest.

And who's paying for all these arrests at the end of the day?

And who's paying for all these arrests at the end of the day?

The city's paying. So the city don't want you to be arresting people? Oh, because they've got a budget to manage. Were you ever directly told to stop arresting these people?