Steven

And then is there anything I need to be aware of when I have that difficult conversation with them so that I'm successful in getting to that outcome?

And then is there anything I need to be aware of when I have that difficult conversation with them so that I'm successful in getting to that outcome?

Because when we go into those sort of difficult conversations, whether it's with a colleague or our spouse or whoever it might be, much of the objective, I think, for some of us is to win the conversation in whatever definition of winning one might have. Is endeavoring to win a conversation a good idea?

Because when we go into those sort of difficult conversations, whether it's with a colleague or our spouse or whoever it might be, much of the objective, I think, for some of us is to win the conversation in whatever definition of winning one might have. Is endeavoring to win a conversation a good idea?

There's been so many arguments I've had with my girlfriend where I have quote unquote won and I felt like shit.

There's been so many arguments I've had with my girlfriend where I have quote unquote won and I felt like shit.

Because she might come to me and say, do you know what? I understand your point and I'm sorry. And there's part of me that just feels like shit. It's because I thought that's the outcome I was looking for. But actually the outcome I was looking for was resolution. And I actually love this person so much that a concession was not like, was actually not, it's not what I wanted.

Because she might come to me and say, do you know what? I understand your point and I'm sorry. And there's part of me that just feels like shit. It's because I thought that's the outcome I was looking for. But actually the outcome I was looking for was resolution. And I actually love this person so much that a concession was not like, was actually not, it's not what I wanted.

I actually wanted to be happy with them.

I actually wanted to be happy with them.

So I had to, you know, I was thinking of some recent examples where my girlfriend came to me and apologized for something, where we were like disagreeing about it. And I just felt like shit that she apologized. Yeah.

So I had to, you know, I was thinking of some recent examples where my girlfriend came to me and apologized for something, where we were like disagreeing about it. And I just felt like shit that she apologized. Yeah.

I have two glasses on the floor here.

I have two glasses on the floor here.

Try not to spill it. Nice. Since I've been a waiter. So I have these two glasses of water in front of me. I know there's an analogy you have for having a good effective conversation that can be demonstrated with these two glasses of water.

Try not to spill it. Nice. Since I've been a waiter. So I have these two glasses of water in front of me. I know there's an analogy you have for having a good effective conversation that can be demonstrated with these two glasses of water.

So what's like a real world example of this idea that you might not be talking to Stephen, you might be talking to something he's dealing with?

So what's like a real world example of this idea that you might not be talking to Stephen, you might be talking to something he's dealing with?

horrible habit of thinking for some reason that if i say it to you right in this moment it's all going to change and you're going to just immediately conform to what i want you to be being triggered is a hallmark of that isn't it like being when we sell the car they're like easily triggered it's really you're scratching at an open wound that might have been there many years ago i was reflecting as you were speaking about a particular friend that i have

horrible habit of thinking for some reason that if i say it to you right in this moment it's all going to change and you're going to just immediately conform to what i want you to be being triggered is a hallmark of that isn't it like being when we sell the car they're like easily triggered it's really you're scratching at an open wound that might have been there many years ago i was reflecting as you were speaking about a particular friend that i have