Steven

I remember reading a study of Wim Hof, the Iceman, where they injected him with a virus. And I think they injected other people with the virus. And through his breath work and meditations and whatever else he did, the virus didn't infect him, but it infected the other people. And then I think in the study, he trained other people to be able to reject the virus as well.

And all of this kind of sounds a little bit woo-woo to the average person, because to think that you can do something to prevent a virus infecting you I mean, it blows the doors open to like personal responsibility and, you know, which is troubling for people, I think.

And all of this kind of sounds a little bit woo-woo to the average person, because to think that you can do something to prevent a virus infecting you I mean, it blows the doors open to like personal responsibility and, you know, which is troubling for people, I think.

And that is where you keep referencing the term advanced meditator, because you don't say normal meditators.

And that is where you keep referencing the term advanced meditator, because you don't say normal meditators.

At these retreats, these seven-day retreats, one of the things I was pretty shocked by was the amount of time people spend meditating. How long do people spend meditating and why is that important?

At these retreats, these seven-day retreats, one of the things I was pretty shocked by was the amount of time people spend meditating. How long do people spend meditating and why is that important?

That's the experience that I can profess to be true in my own relationship in life because my partner came back from the meditations. She came back from the week in Miami where she was doing the walking meditations down the beach and so on. And it didn't stop there.

That's the experience that I can profess to be true in my own relationship in life because my partner came back from the meditations. She came back from the week in Miami where she was doing the walking meditations down the beach and so on. And it didn't stop there.

In fact, that was really the start of her journey because every morning now she has this new routine where she meditates in the morning. And no one's telling her to do that. But clearly the benefit has been so great for her that... that she's continued the practice, and she does it every day.

In fact, that was really the start of her journey because every morning now she has this new routine where she meditates in the morning. And no one's telling her to do that. But clearly the benefit has been so great for her that... that she's continued the practice, and she does it every day.

I'm so amazed by it, because it takes a certain... I was going to say the word discipline, but it's not discipline, because if you're so clear on the benefit of an action, you don't necessarily need discipline. It's just clearly done so much for her that she's continued to do it thereafter. And it's funny, because obviously she came back from it. I was supposed to attend, I had a visa issue.

I'm so amazed by it, because it takes a certain... I was going to say the word discipline, but it's not discipline, because if you're so clear on the benefit of an action, you don't necessarily need discipline. It's just clearly done so much for her that she's continued to do it thereafter. And it's funny, because obviously she came back from it. I was supposed to attend, I had a visa issue.

She came back from it and told me... about the process and her recounting it like objectively, you go, God, that must have been hard and uncomfortable or that must have been whatever. But her experience was very much the opposite. It was joyous, it was filling. She came back so unbelievably obsessed with this new set of sort of systems and information that could better her life.

She came back from it and told me... about the process and her recounting it like objectively, you go, God, that must have been hard and uncomfortable or that must have been whatever. But her experience was very much the opposite. It was joyous, it was filling. She came back so unbelievably obsessed with this new set of sort of systems and information that could better her life.

And it's really profound. Like you can hear it on a podcast, but then when you kind of witness it in someone, someone you know well and love, it's incredibly persuasive.

And it's really profound. Like you can hear it on a podcast, but then when you kind of witness it in someone, someone you know well and love, it's incredibly persuasive.

And you'll get out of want. Use that term a few times.

And you'll get out of want. Use that term a few times.

My concern when I hear that is, well, Joe, if I no longer want, if I no longer live in a state of want, am I going to have the motivation to get up and go? Because I look at my life and go, well, it was your creating from a place of lack that motivated you to start a podcast and to start run businesses and do all of these things and get a car and whatever else.