Steven

I'm looking at some stats here in front of me on a graph, which I was just reading as you were explaining that, because it seems to be quite relevant. And it shows that in 1960, one in 10 mothers were the sole primary breadwinner. Now it's almost at half. It's on its way to half.

Almost half of mothers are the sole or primary breadwinner in 2016. So, I mean, these mothers can't just quit their jobs, right?

Almost half of mothers are the sole or primary breadwinner in 2016. So, I mean, these mothers can't just quit their jobs, right?

There's so many mothers listening now that are very career driven and you may be causing some existential crises. You may be reaffirming a lot of what they believe and think and what they feel intuitively. Are you saying then that for those women that are pursuing, you know, high octane careers in leadership roles that also want to have children, that it's one or the other?

There's so many mothers listening now that are very career driven and you may be causing some existential crises. You may be reaffirming a lot of what they believe and think and what they feel intuitively. Are you saying then that for those women that are pursuing, you know, high octane careers in leadership roles that also want to have children, that it's one or the other?

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Kind of. Yeah.

Kind of. Yeah.

I'm representing the opinion of some people who might be listening.

I'm representing the opinion of some people who might be listening.

Okay, let me tell you that. So I was 18 years old, dropped out of university. probably had sex that year. So if I had sex that year and had a baby, and then I became a single parent, at the time, I had two CCJs. I was broke. I was shoplifting food to feed myself. I printed off the doll forms. I never sent them in, but the forms where you get government assistance.

Okay, let me tell you that. So I was 18 years old, dropped out of university. probably had sex that year. So if I had sex that year and had a baby, and then I became a single parent, at the time, I had two CCJs. I was broke. I was shoplifting food to feed myself. I printed off the doll forms. I never sent them in, but the forms where you get government assistance.

And I was working in call centers, working night shifts, because that was the best job I could get to pay for the rent that I had every month. If I'd had a baby at that exact moment in time, I didn't think I would be, it wouldn't resonate with me what you're saying about being the architect of my own destiny because there is like immediate emergencies. I can't feed myself, let alone a kid.

And I was working in call centers, working night shifts, because that was the best job I could get to pay for the rent that I had every month. If I'd had a baby at that exact moment in time, I didn't think I would be, it wouldn't resonate with me what you're saying about being the architect of my own destiny because there is like immediate emergencies. I can't feed myself, let alone a kid.

And I also didn't have any family within hours. My mum had basically disowned me because I dropped out of university. I was alone.

And I also didn't have any family within hours. My mum had basically disowned me because I dropped out of university. I was alone.

I haven't had kids yet. I'm hoping to.

I haven't had kids yet. I'm hoping to.

Even if the kid's going to be raised alone at that early age versus going to daycare where they'll be around other kids.