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He's much slimmer than I am. And... The diagnosis that came back from the doctor basically said, you're overnourished. And when I look at him, he doesn't look like someone that's overnourished. And the doctor essentially said to him that you need to reduce your calories. Now I'm looking at this guy thinking this is a slim guy. This guy's like much, much slimmer than I am.

He's much slimmer than I am. And... The diagnosis that came back from the doctor basically said, you're overnourished. And when I look at him, he doesn't look like someone that's overnourished. And the doctor essentially said to him that you need to reduce your calories. Now I'm looking at this guy thinking this is a slim guy. This guy's like much, much slimmer than I am.

Yet the doctor's telling him that he's overeating.

Yet the doctor's telling him that he's overeating.

Yeah. And that's what we call skinny fat. I am still mildly in shock about it because... Because I saw his results, I panicked. So the next day, I also went to the same clinic as him. I had my DEXA scan done, and it came back and said that I had, quote, zero visceral fat. So my results from Dr. Peter Atiyah said I had zero visceral fat, which he said was rare.

Yeah. And that's what we call skinny fat. I am still mildly in shock about it because... Because I saw his results, I panicked. So the next day, I also went to the same clinic as him. I had my DEXA scan done, and it came back and said that I had, quote, zero visceral fat. So my results from Dr. Peter Atiyah said I had zero visceral fat, which he said was rare.

But I had subcutaneous fat, which is the fat on the outside, more than Jack did. So Jack had visceral fat, which is the fat inside us, and he has almost no subcutaneous fat, and I'm kind of the inverse of that. And I don't understand.

But I had subcutaneous fat, which is the fat on the outside, more than Jack did. So Jack had visceral fat, which is the fat inside us, and he has almost no subcutaneous fat, and I'm kind of the inverse of that. And I don't understand.

I was trying to figure out, why is my body, when I eat something, putting the fat subcutaneously on the outside, whereas Jack's body is putting the fat on the inside, which is the dangerous fat?

I was trying to figure out, why is my body, when I eat something, putting the fat subcutaneously on the outside, whereas Jack's body is putting the fat on the inside, which is the dangerous fat?

And then the last thing is cortisol. Yeah. The job that we have, I know that it doesn't sound like a hard job to be a podcaster, but in Jack's role, he's basically working seven days a week sometimes. You know, he's working early hours of the morning. He's traveling around the world with me to come to these studios. It is, I observe it, it's a stressful job.

And then the last thing is cortisol. Yeah. The job that we have, I know that it doesn't sound like a hard job to be a podcaster, but in Jack's role, he's basically working seven days a week sometimes. You know, he's working early hours of the morning. He's traveling around the world with me to come to these studios. It is, I observe it, it's a stressful job.

So I was wondering if all of these factors play a role in how our body chooses where to store things. And really like the role of cortisol in determining fat storage is so interesting to me. Like the role of stress in determining where our fat is stored

So I was wondering if all of these factors play a role in how our body chooses where to store things. And really like the role of cortisol in determining fat storage is so interesting to me. Like the role of stress in determining where our fat is stored

Why is visceral fat dangerous? Because people refer to it as being linked with a lot of chronic disease and cancers and stuff like that. But what evidence do we have that it's dangerous? And why is it dangerous? Yeah.

Why is visceral fat dangerous? Because people refer to it as being linked with a lot of chronic disease and cancers and stuff like that. But what evidence do we have that it's dangerous? And why is it dangerous? Yeah.

Oh, gosh. And there's a link there to cancer.

Oh, gosh. And there's a link there to cancer.

Don't you hate it when you have a good idea and then you forget? For the last two years, I've been writing my brand new book. And my book writing process is a little bit atypical in the sense that I have all of these great conversations on the Diary of a CEO. And I might stumble across a great idea while my guest is speaking to me in the middle of a conversation. Or I could be walking the dog.

Don't you hate it when you have a good idea and then you forget? For the last two years, I've been writing my brand new book. And my book writing process is a little bit atypical in the sense that I have all of these great conversations on the Diary of a CEO. And I might stumble across a great idea while my guest is speaking to me in the middle of a conversation. Or I could be walking the dog.