Steven

Which is these like five or seven people that you typically call, maybe it's 10. Who's on your personal board of directors? Like who are these people that are taking these phone calls and why are you calling them? What is it about them that makes them a reliable partner in decisions?

Which is these like five or seven people that you typically call, maybe it's 10. Who's on your personal board of directors? Like who are these people that are taking these phone calls and why are you calling them? What is it about them that makes them a reliable partner in decisions?

So at that early stage in your career, what role are mentors playing? Because we're talking about personal boards of directors here.

So at that early stage in your career, what role are mentors playing? Because we're talking about personal boards of directors here.

These are, in some respects, mentors, right? Do they matter? And I say this, Emma, because I have kids coming up to me all the time saying, Steve, I need a mentor. And they sometimes say, can you be my mentor? And I'm thinking, fucking hell, I've done 17,000 hours of podcasting and you haven't learned a fucking thing.

These are, in some respects, mentors, right? Do they matter? And I say this, Emma, because I have kids coming up to me all the time saying, Steve, I need a mentor. And they sometimes say, can you be my mentor? And I'm thinking, fucking hell, I've done 17,000 hours of podcasting and you haven't learned a fucking thing.

That was the mentorship. What's your take on finding a mentor and how pivotal and important that is to become a successful person?

That was the mentorship. What's your take on finding a mentor and how pivotal and important that is to become a successful person?

And what part of you do you think, if I removed, and this could be a skill or a characteristic... we're definitely assured that you wouldn't be where you are today. Like what is the sacred part of you that is defining? Because people see Emma today and they see these skills and this knowledge and all this stuff and these relationships and these businesses and this success.

And what part of you do you think, if I removed, and this could be a skill or a characteristic... we're definitely assured that you wouldn't be where you are today. Like what is the sacred part of you that is defining? Because people see Emma today and they see these skills and this knowledge and all this stuff and these relationships and these businesses and this success.

But what is the like, because you said I'm dyslexic and I think you left school, you dropped out of school at 15. And then you went to college for a while and you lasted six months there.

But what is the like, because you said I'm dyslexic and I think you left school, you dropped out of school at 15. And then you went to college for a while and you lasted six months there.

So it's not something you learned necessarily in school. So I'm wondering what the characteristic is that was the like the wind in one's sails. That brought you here. And if I removed that thing, you definitely wouldn't be here. And it could only give me one thing.

So it's not something you learned necessarily in school. So I'm wondering what the characteristic is that was the like the wind in one's sails. That brought you here. And if I removed that thing, you definitely wouldn't be here. And it could only give me one thing.

And it's that grit and Ember that life blew on. Because I wonder if I'd gone back and I'd met Ember at 18 years old, whether she would have said it to me like that.

And it's that grit and Ember that life blew on. Because I wonder if I'd gone back and I'd met Ember at 18 years old, whether she would have said it to me like that.

To me, it makes perfect sense. It makes perfect sense because you grew up in a situation as an older sister where you were playing the role of a dad where you did have to put your hand up and say, I'll do that. You did have to make the lunches. And I sometimes think back to my own life and think about how a void of independence is...

To me, it makes perfect sense. It makes perfect sense because you grew up in a situation as an older sister where you were playing the role of a dad where you did have to put your hand up and say, I'll do that. You did have to make the lunches. And I sometimes think back to my own life and think about how a void of independence is...

is maybe a scary thing to some parents, but it's also an incredibly useful thing for a kid to learn that I have to get myself from A to B, whether it's from home to school or from home to dinner or from home to whatever it might be. And I don't know, I looked at your life and go, you had this massive void of independence.

is maybe a scary thing to some parents, but it's also an incredibly useful thing for a kid to learn that I have to get myself from A to B, whether it's from home to school or from home to dinner or from home to whatever it might be. And I don't know, I looked at your life and go, you had this massive void of independence.