Steven

No rigor in deciding.

No rigor in deciding.

How do you think about prejudice, Emma? What I really mean here is being counted out before you walk in the room. So people hear that you're, it might be a woman or something else, and you feel that they're not taking you seriously. Has that happened in your career as a black person, as a woman, as anything that puts you in the minority as it relates to the accomplishments you've made?

How do you think about prejudice, Emma? What I really mean here is being counted out before you walk in the room. So people hear that you're, it might be a woman or something else, and you feel that they're not taking you seriously. Has that happened in your career as a black person, as a woman, as anything that puts you in the minority as it relates to the accomplishments you've made?

Do you know what? I'm going to give you a bit more context as to why I asked this.

Do you know what? I'm going to give you a bit more context as to why I asked this.

It's because one of my fears is with some people, they count themselves out before they walk in the room because prejudice is real. So they limit themselves. And there's a really great study they did many, many years ago. where they got a group of black people, I believe it was on a vocabulary test, just to talk about their race before they did the vocabulary test.

It's because one of my fears is with some people, they count themselves out before they walk in the room because prejudice is real. So they limit themselves. And there's a really great study they did many, many years ago. where they got a group of black people, I believe it was on a vocabulary test, just to talk about their race before they did the vocabulary test.

And if they got them to talk about their race before, their performance dropped. If they didn't get the group to talk about their race before in a different study, performance was the same. They did the same with women. They got them to identify their gender before doing a maths test. And because there's a stereotype...

And if they got them to talk about their race before, their performance dropped. If they didn't get the group to talk about their race before in a different study, performance was the same. They did the same with women. They got them to identify their gender before doing a maths test. And because there's a stereotype...

around maths, or at least there was at the time in women, women on that test would perform worse if they talked about their gender right before they did the test. But importantly, if they didn't, the results were the same as everybody else. So stereotype threat is a real thing. And the unpopular conversation is there could be ways that we're holding ourselves back

around maths, or at least there was at the time in women, women on that test would perform worse if they talked about their gender right before they did the test. But importantly, if they didn't, the results were the same as everybody else. So stereotype threat is a real thing. And the unpopular conversation is there could be ways that we're holding ourselves back

before we even walk into the room because of that stereotype threat. It could be age. It could be race. It could be gender. It could be anything else. It could be a disability. And I just wonder how you think about, like, you know, that.

before we even walk into the room because of that stereotype threat. It could be age. It could be race. It could be gender. It could be anything else. It could be a disability. And I just wonder how you think about, like, you know, that.

That's what I wanted to know. I wanted to understand that because it's something that I really want people to realise, which is like prejudice, yes, it's real, as you said, but it doesn't have to be your problem. It can remain theirs. Yeah. And I really worry that people will internalise other people's prejudice and then limit themselves.

That's what I wanted to know. I wanted to understand that because it's something that I really want people to realise, which is like prejudice, yes, it's real, as you said, but it doesn't have to be your problem. It can remain theirs. Yeah. And I really worry that people will internalise other people's prejudice and then limit themselves.

How do you mean?

How do you mean?

How you felt about yourself seems to be more internal than external in that regard. And that brings me to my next question, which is just about how do we not give so many fucks? Because it's hard to live and it's hard to strive and it's hard to take risk if we're imprisoned by the amount of fucks that we give.

How you felt about yourself seems to be more internal than external in that regard. And that brings me to my next question, which is just about how do we not give so many fucks? Because it's hard to live and it's hard to strive and it's hard to take risk if we're imprisoned by the amount of fucks that we give.