Stevie Johnson

I think on both, to be honest, David, because the reality is this club's gone through

different iterations of whether it be an untried coach or, as you're saying, the coach who has coached the club for a period of time or the large figure that comes into the club into the future.

I'm not talking anything specific there.

I'm just saying that in my role and certainly in Graeme's and even for Rob Priestley, our president, who's doing a fantastic job as well,

You just can't afford to be encumbered by people's decisions in the past, whether they be good or bad.

This is a decision that will be the most important decision for this footy club in the next five or six years.

We've got to get it right and we've got to do it without feeling like we're carrying pressure or burden from decisions that have been made in the past.

Do you know what, David?

I saw some of that, and you know that I hold Kane in very high esteem, but I thought he got that wrong last week.

I felt like...

He went very hard on something that he didn't quite need to go as hard on.

And he's copped some ridicule in the Carlton community, David.

I'm not sure how keen he is, an observer of what we do.

But what I can guarantee you both is that those particular people

The host broadcast, which I totally get, mate.

You're dealing with someone here who has a head for radio, who is no way going to go on a TV show like yours and sit next to four people who are far better looking than me.

And look, Dave, the little platform is not.

I think you're being, you're falling into Kane's situation.

That's what Kane called it.

No, I didn't.