Stu Gatz

and I see one kid who's catching the ball at camp in Fort Wayne, Indiana, and he's just running back to the huddle instead of running upfield, which is like, hey, you got to do this. But then I see a guy in South Florida do it.

and I see one kid who's catching the ball at camp in Fort Wayne, Indiana, and he's just running back to the huddle instead of running upfield, which is like, hey, you got to do this. But then I see a guy in South Florida do it.

Knowing the culture down here, knowing the football culture, knowing what you're exposed to at such an early age, then I'm more like, oh, that's a decision for you not to do that versus this guy doesn't have the information. And when I look at Shador's downside, I feel like the situation he's in in some ways has capped him.

Knowing the culture down here, knowing the football culture, knowing what you're exposed to at such an early age, then I'm more like, oh, that's a decision for you not to do that versus this guy doesn't have the information. And when I look at Shador's downside, I feel like the situation he's in in some ways has capped him.

like the best version that we could probably expect when we put on the game field.

like the best version that we could probably expect when we put on the game field.

I'd love to take all the credit. My wife was a really good long jumper. Like a better long jumper than I. Did you run track? I was on the team. I'm like Mike. I was there.

I'd love to take all the credit. My wife was a really good long jumper. Like a better long jumper than I. Did you run track? I was on the team. I'm like Mike. I was there.

Yeah, I was... No, no, no. It's not soul and valor. I was around. I wasn't helping. I was like a high jumper. I'm shocked. Jumping like 5'2". You know? Wasn't getting a lot of points there. I did triple jump. I did long jump. And I would have these spurts of athleticism where they would, you know... Was your school like a particularly great sports school?

Yeah, I was... No, no, no. It's not soul and valor. I was around. I wasn't helping. I was like a high jumper. I'm shocked. Jumping like 5'2". You know? Wasn't getting a lot of points there. I did triple jump. I did long jump. And I would have these spurts of athleticism where they would, you know... Was your school like a particularly great sports school?

So you were good. You're just being humble. I'm not being humble. It's that the expectation is if you didn't know anything about me, what would you say? You'd be like, oh, you were the 100-meter dash guy. I'd say you was crushing it. No, I was on the 4x1 team.

So you were good. You're just being humble. I'm not being humble. It's that the expectation is if you didn't know anything about me, what would you say? You'd be like, oh, you were the 100-meter dash guy. I'd say you was crushing it. No, I was on the 4x1 team.

I didn't figure it out until I got to college. So were you an anchor on the 4x1? I was the third leg. Whoa!

I didn't figure it out until I got to college. So were you an anchor on the 4x1? I was the third leg. Whoa!

You know what I'm saying?

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. No, it was. I am stunned. It was bad. It was bad. I mean, I ran the 100 twice in high school. My best, I ran it as a freshman, and I ran a 13.6, which is not great. Okay. As a freshman.

Yeah. No, it was. I am stunned. It was bad. It was bad. I mean, I ran the 100 twice in high school. My best, I ran it as a freshman, and I ran a 13.6, which is not great. Okay. As a freshman.

You're a better teammate than you were earlier. I appreciate that. But in my senior year, I ran 11.33. Okay. Was my, you know, but that's not, like my son is in seventh grade, and he runs a 12.5 in the 100. So what about your jumps? You're a great jumper, right? I was solid. I jumped 20 feet once. Your son had practice yet? Has he what?

You're a better teammate than you were earlier. I appreciate that. But in my senior year, I ran 11.33. Okay. Was my, you know, but that's not, like my son is in seventh grade, and he runs a 12.5 in the 100. So what about your jumps? You're a great jumper, right? I was solid. I jumped 20 feet once. Your son had practice yet? Has he what?