Stuart Russell

You know, you'll travel for miles and you'll go into this windowless box and you'll do the same thing 10,000 times for the whole day.

And then you'll leave and travel for miles to go home.

You're talking about this podcast.

And then you're going to go back and do it again.

And you would do that every day of your life until you die.

The office.

And people would say, yeah, you're nuts, right?

There's no way that we humans are ever going to have a future like that because that's awful, right?

But that's exactly the future that we ended up with, with office buildings and factories where many of us go and do the same thing thousands of times a day.

And we do it thousands of days in a row.

And then we die.

And we need to figure out what is the next phase going to be like?

And in particular, how in that world

Do we have the incentives to become fully human?

Which I think means at least a level of education that people have now and probably more.

Because I think to live a really rich life, you need a better understanding of yourself, of the world, than most people get in their current educations.

You know, we used to hunt on the... To attain goals, right?

It's always, if I wanted to climb Everest, the last thing I would want is someone to pick me up in a helicopter and stick me on the top.

Yeah, no, I think there's real value in the ability to do things and the doing of those things.

And I think the obvious danger is the Wall-E world where everyone just consumes entertainment, which doesn't require much education and doesn't lead to a rich, satisfying life, I think, in the long run.