Sue Simpson

No, no. No.

So Gallagher testified that he was responsible for trying to preserve the scene in the midst of a snowstorm and that the weather conditions, those awful weather conditions, made it difficult. And he actually testified that he didn't know it was a crime scene at the time.

So Gallagher testified that he was responsible for trying to preserve the scene in the midst of a snowstorm and that the weather conditions, those awful weather conditions, made it difficult. And he actually testified that he didn't know it was a crime scene at the time.

Yeah, unconventional is a good word for it. I mean, they actually used a leaf blower to reveal blood in the snow and red solo cups to collect that blood.

Yeah, unconventional is a good word for it. I mean, they actually used a leaf blower to reveal blood in the snow and red solo cups to collect that blood.

Jackson really did push him on that.

Jackson really did push him on that.

Jackson pointed out that having unsealed and unsecured biological material, his words, was not within any normal protocol for securing evidence. They clearly want to show the jury that this evidence could be tainted. And if it's tainted, then how can they trust it? And then that raises the possibility of Reasonable doubt, which is exactly what they want to do.

Jackson pointed out that having unsealed and unsecured biological material, his words, was not within any normal protocol for securing evidence. They clearly want to show the jury that this evidence could be tainted. And if it's tainted, then how can they trust it? And then that raises the possibility of Reasonable doubt, which is exactly what they want to do.

Yeah, you know, they're so powerful, these voicemails. Karen made dozens of calls to John O'Keefe's cell phone after she dropped him off. And a lot of calls just, you know, went to voicemail and man, they were fiery.

Yeah, you know, they're so powerful, these voicemails. Karen made dozens of calls to John O'Keefe's cell phone after she dropped him off. And a lot of calls just, you know, went to voicemail and man, they were fiery.

The prosecutor wants to show the jurors just how angry she was at him. She was calling him a loser. She was saying, John, I hate you.

The prosecutor wants to show the jurors just how angry she was at him. She was calling him a loser. She was saying, John, I hate you.

You know, the thing about these jurors are they really, for me at least, they don't show their emotions. They don't show their feelings. They listen. Their faces are impassive. I didn't notice a reaction there, startling. I will tell you, they land with a startle because Karen is sitting right in court.

You know, the thing about these jurors are they really, for me at least, they don't show their emotions. They don't show their feelings. They listen. Their faces are impassive. I didn't notice a reaction there, startling. I will tell you, they land with a startle because Karen is sitting right in court.

And these angry, angry words of hers and the swearing, and clearly this is a woman who is passionate and has lost control of herself, they land in a court with a huge bang. Now, the defense decided not to cross-examine. The investigator who found these voicemails and these calls, they just let her words go and they moved on.

And these angry, angry words of hers and the swearing, and clearly this is a woman who is passionate and has lost control of herself, they land in a court with a huge bang. Now, the defense decided not to cross-examine. The investigator who found these voicemails and these calls, they just let her words go and they moved on.

Karen made dozens of calls to John O'Keefe's cell phone, and a lot of calls just, you know, went to voicemail, and man, they were fiery.

Karen made dozens of calls to John O'Keefe's cell phone, and a lot of calls just, you know, went to voicemail, and man, they were fiery.

Karen made dozens of calls to John O'Keefe's cell phone, and a lot of calls just, you know, went to voicemail, and man, they were fiery.