Sue Simpson
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370 appearances
24 recordings
2 series
first heard Nov 2024
last heard 11 Jun
Sue Simpson’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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And the calculation the defense team has to make is this. If they put Michael Proctor on the stand, will they in some way humanize him? And is that a risk that they're willing to take? So they've got a big decision to make, and they have to make it relatively soon.
You know, Andrea, you know that's the million-dollar question, right? It's something she's asked about almost every day. And so far, all she said was that's also to be determined.
Thank you, Andrea.
Karen made dozens of calls to John O'Keefe's cell phone, and a lot of calls just, you know, went to voicemail, and man, they were fiery.
Happy to be here.
I am in the courtroom. It is so exciting.
That's right. So Brennan asked Katie McLaughlin about seeing Karen Reed at the scene. And McLaughlin testified that one of the firefighters there asked her to gather more information about what had happened. McLaughlin said she noticed Karen and she decided to approach her.
You're absolutely right. And the defense, of course, maintains that what Karen said was, did I hit him? Or could I have hit him? That she wasn't making a statement. She was asking a question. But, you know, if you wanted to simplify this case, Andrea, and boil it down to a few critical points, this would be one. How will the jury interpret those few words, that handful of words?
McLaughlin also testified that after Karen said, I hit him, Jen McCabe, who was standing right beside Karen, told her to calm down.
Well, Jackson asked if McLaughlin was sure that Karen wasn't asking a question. And Jackson asked if she was actually admitting to a crime, why didn't they arrest her right then and there?
No, no. No.
So Gallagher testified that he was responsible for trying to preserve the scene in the midst of a snowstorm and that the weather conditions, those awful weather conditions, made it difficult. And he actually testified that he didn't know it was a crime scene at the time.
Yeah, unconventional is a good word for it. I mean, they actually used a leaf blower to reveal blood in the snow and red solo cups to collect that blood.
Jackson really did push him on that.
Jackson pointed out that having unsealed and unsecured biological material, his words, was not within any normal protocol for securing evidence. They clearly want to show the jury that this evidence could be tainted. And if it's tainted, then how can they trust it? And then that raises the possibility of Reasonable doubt, which is exactly what they want to do.
Yeah, you know, they're so powerful, these voicemails. Karen made dozens of calls to John O'Keefe's cell phone after she dropped him off. And a lot of calls just, you know, went to voicemail and man, they were fiery.
The prosecutor wants to show the jurors just how angry she was at him. She was calling him a loser. She was saying, John, I hate you.
You know, the thing about these jurors are they really, for me at least, they don't show their emotions. They don't show their feelings. They listen. Their faces are impassive. I didn't notice a reaction there, startling. I will tell you, they land with a startle because Karen is sitting right in court.
And these angry, angry words of hers and the swearing, and clearly this is a woman who is passionate and has lost control of herself, they land in a court with a huge bang. Now, the defense decided not to cross-examine. The investigator who found these voicemails and these calls, they just let her words go and they moved on.
Karen made dozens of calls to John O'Keefe's cell phone, and a lot of calls just, you know, went to voicemail, and man, they were fiery.
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