Susan Cain

I don't know that soundtrack, but I'm guessing.

Yeah, probably.

But it's just very affecting music.

I don't think I'm ever thinking about how it was produced.

Again, back in the day, you didn't have to think about it because you knew there was an orchestra there and there were people behind all that.

But I don't think I was ever thinking.

There's a much more fundamental...

just purely kind of neurological and primal response to a stimulus, right?

This is almost like, you know, tasting a fruit you've never tasted before.

And it's just, you've got this sunburst of flavor in your mouth.

And you're not thinking about the evolution of this plant that gave you the fruit.

You're just having an experience.

And I do think that the raw experience of bittersweetness or any other emotion to music can be fully uncoupled from any thought about how it got there in the first place.

Well, okay.

So the example of the soundtrack to a movie, that's a really interesting example because I feel like if we think of it as a continuum, it's not quite in the realm of interior design, but it's also not in the realm of just sitting quietly and listening to your favorite musician.

It's somewhere in between.

My Philistine bona fides are well established at this point.

No.

No, but I might grant you that in the context of a movie, maybe it doesn't matter.

And in fact, my family and I talk about this all the time because that shows Succession.