Susan Cain

I don't know if you've watched that one.

Yeah, and the music for Succession.

Oh my gosh, it's so incredible.

And so we've talked about, okay, would it be as good if the music had been produced by a machine?

And maybe it would in that context.

But when it's purely a musical listening experience,

I'm actually going to hold down a quote from my wall.

So as I like to say ad nauseum, I love Leonard Cohen, the musician.

He's like my rabbi, my patron saint.

And I literally have this quote hanging up on my wall that says, the only religion I've ever known is the Church of Leonard Cohen.

All others pale in comparison.

That's what someone said about his music.

And I thought, yeah, that's exactly what I feel.

I wasn't sure whether someone else wrote that or whether Leonard Cohen wrote that.

No, no, no, no.

This was like a random comment on a YouTube video of his music.

And when I read it, I thought that that doesn't work with AI because it's like the, I know you don't like the, probably the word soul, but it's like the soul of the musician is transmitting to you when you're listening in that way.

I held music with lyrics and voice to one side just because there it's pretty obvious to me that I'm not so interested in the version of Hallelujah that is sung by a robot.

But it's not the singing, it's the creation of it.

It's the fact that a human actually...