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Susan Cain

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
263 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#476 โ€” The Bittersweet Age

created it right right yeah so written and sung by a robot whatever the simulacrum of the same vibe however successful I think it's it's not interesting it's not interesting once you know that it's the product of AI but again

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#476 โ€” The Bittersweet Age

not knowing in the Pepsi challenge, I think we will be fooled.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#476 โ€” The Bittersweet Age

We could be fooled already.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#476 โ€” The Bittersweet Age

And there's something psychologically interesting about that.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#476 โ€” The Bittersweet Age

I mean, like, imagine what it's like to withdraw your sympathy for a piece of art once you know that a human didn't make it, right?

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#476 โ€” The Bittersweet Age

Like, imagine having the full effect of, if you can imagine or even remember what it was like to hear Leonard Cohen's version of Hallelujah for the first time,

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#476 โ€” The Bittersweet Age

and have it hit you exactly as it did.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#476 โ€” The Bittersweet Age

Imagine having that experience with something that you don't know is just robot slop, and then having to kind of break off that reaction because now you know you've been tricked on some level.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#476 โ€” The Bittersweet Age

Yeah, I don't know.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#476 โ€” The Bittersweet Age

I don't know that it's any different than what we'll think if we get to the point that the robots really can look like another person and embody another person in that uncanny valley way.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#476 โ€” The Bittersweet Age

And they tell you they love you and you seem to love them.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#476 โ€” The Bittersweet Age

But then you know that it's not real and you switch them off at any moment.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#476 โ€” The Bittersweet Age

I don't know.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#476 โ€” The Bittersweet Age

I'm still in the camp of thinking that unless we get to the point of thinking that there's something interesting and sympathetic about machine consciousness, that unless we get there, I think it's never going to feel the same and we'll always know.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#476 โ€” The Bittersweet Age

And that that will invalidate the experience to some degree, maybe not to the full degree.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#476 โ€” The Bittersweet Age

So again, like I think it'll still work in the context of a movie soundtrack or that kind of thing, but not for the real experience.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#476 โ€” The Bittersweet Age

My prediction is that, I don't consider this a hopeful one, but it might be less weird than the certainty of AI consciousness.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#476 โ€” The Bittersweet Age

All human beings are born into this world with the deep instinct that we belong in another more perfect and more beautiful place than this one.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#476 โ€” The Bittersweet Age

We create religions in the name of that belief, that instinct.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#476 โ€” The Bittersweet Age

I mean, we are longing for the Garden of Eden, and we feel every so often like it's just around the corner.