Susan Glasser

This is a very... Sorry, Israeli targets.

This is a very...

very serious enterprise.

And I do think it goes against Trump's personal grain.

Many times before he's come up to the brink of some more major military action and he has backed away.

I think he is very wary of that.

And so he will very likely be casting about for, as you said, some kind of a face-saving action here that is something short in my view of a full-scale morass type war that ensnares us for a generation.

Thank you, Tim.

I'm not sure we figured it out, but at least we're trying.

Well, I think we can say we actually do know what Ukraine and Europe will think of it.

And the answer is they don't think much of it.

It's not funny.

In fact, you know, Russia's attacks this week have been particularly pernicious, aimed at the civilian population, including in Western Ukraine, civilians sleeping in their beds, going about their business.

This proposal seems to be not that dissimilar, literally from Russia's 2022 proposal.

quote unquote, peace proposal, which was essentially a series of unilateral demands.

I mean, by itemizing the peace plan and making it 28 points, it doesn't make it any more of a viable peace plan.

What it does appear is essentially that the United States, at least one faction of the United States government, Stephen Witkoff, is willing to act as an agent for conveying Russian demands and conditions for the end of the war to Ukraine.

I don't see this right now

as being a serious or viable proposal for Ukraine, because any leader of Ukraine, including Vladimir Zelensky, but any other elected leader of Ukraine would no longer be able to be the leader of Ukraine if they agreed to these conditions, which essentially would compromise the sovereignty and the future independence of the country.

Yeah.