Susan Rice

Not just in one city, not just in one state, not just every three months, but in a sustained way.

Because if you look at the history of what's happened in other countries where authoritarians have captured power through democratic elections.

The best constraint on that evolution reaching its extreme is peaceful, popular resistance.

It has to be peaceful, it has to be massed, but it has to happen before that space for dissent is closed.

And I would suggest people read Masha Gessen's most recent piece in The New York Times, where they talk very clearly about what has happened in Russia, what has happened in other authoritarian countries, and outline the steps that

we have already been through and draw lessons from the experience of countries that have been there before us.

Well, first of all, it's not all a big law.

There is some a big law that is doing the right thing, right?

And there are a lot of small law firms, God bless them, that are doing the right thing.

And there are a lot of advocacy groups and legal defense groups like ACLU who are doing the right thing.

So, thankfully, it's not that the entire legal profession has taken a pass.

But you asked why are corporations, for example, bending the knee?

And again, not all of them, some of them.

And I think they are intimidated.

They are afraid that the crazy aunt in the attic, that Trump will do something to come after them.

But here's the thing, Nicole, it's very short-sighted.

Yeah.

It's very short-sighted.

They are counting on the fact that the public won't remember, that the Democratic Party won't remember.

that the next president won't remember.