Susan Rice

So and then, you know, the third thing is, I think the Europeans said, you know, finally, fuck, no way.

We're not down with this and we're not going to roll over and play dead.

And if you push us on it, you want a trade war, you get a trade war.

He never does anything regarding Greenland.

He has conveyed to our closest allies that he is a threat to them.

But Zach, explain to me what their rationale is.

I would love to.

Because most people get... No, seriously.

Most people get you're safer with friends than without friends.

Like just basic...

human nature.

Would you rather have no friends in your life, in your world, or would you rather have friends who, when the stuff hits the fan, are down with you?

I care what happens to America.

All of us do.

That's why I believe so much in the importance and the power of our alliances.

Yes.

In a dangerous world where you've got powerful adversaries like Russia and China, the reason why Russia and China want nothing more than to break our system of alliances is because they know it is like the secret sauce of our superpower.

It is something we have that they don't have.

And it matters enormously whether we're talking about in Asia or Europe or wherever.

And it is because they understand that when we have friends and allies who are willing to be by our side when the stuff hits the fan, like on 9-11, the only time NATO has ever had to invoke