Susan Rice

It would be the death knell of NATO and the greatest possible gift that anybody could give to Vladimir Putin because Putin has desperately wanted

for decades to weaken and ultimately dismantle NATO.

And here we would be handing it to him on a silver platter without a bullet being fired.

One can only hope and pray that Trump will not go to the extreme and try to use force to seize Greenland.

He's said that of late, but we also know that he can say something one day and do something different the very next day.

So nobody can rest easy.

But the damage to NATO has already been done, Nicole, because our closest allies now know that the president of the United States does not care sufficiently about the strength of that alliance, the importance of that alliance, that he is willing to threaten NATO.

are allies for standing together, consistent with Article 5, against the threat to a NATO member?

And what is his response is to threaten them with politicized tariffs.

So there is economic warfare, security warfare, and all of this is happening within NATO.

And I don't know how we unring that bell.

I have to believe he has a good understanding of the history of World War II.

I will say a number of things about Trump.

I don't think he's stupid.

I do think he's venal.

I do think he's self-interested and corrupt, but he's savvy.

And I don't think these threats to Greenland are coming from a whim or the rant of the week.

I think he has serious, ill-founded imperial designs, including against Greenland.

And I think we need to take that seriously.

And I think, unfortunately, our European allies have come to the same realization that it has to be taken seriously.