Susan Rice
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And I also think we have to understand that
That Trump knows that were he to take Greenland by force or by extreme coercion, that that would shatter NATO.
And I think he also knows that shattering NATO would be a great gift to Vladimir Putin.
And so were he to take those steps, I think the logical conclusion is he is doing it knowing that what he is doing is of ultimate greatest benefit to Putin and Russia.
And that should give us all great pause.
Yeah, I think it's a lie.
And that's nothing that's unfamiliar to Donald Trump.
It is a lie.
And I think he knows it's a lie when he says that we have done everything for NATO and NATO has done nothing for us, that he doubts that they would come to our defense.
He is not ignorant enough or stupid enough not to know that the only time Article 5 has ever been invoked, the only time that NATO has ever
been asked to and actually come to the defense of a member state was when NATO came to our defense after 9-11 and fought and died with us for years and years in Afghanistan.
It's inconceivable that he doesn't know that.
He's choosing to ignore it and to lie about it.
The reality is we have somebody in the White House who has a ceaseless thirst for power and wealth.
And who is openly justifying actions that would be absolutely antithetical, detrimental to the national interests of the United States by his hurt feelings.
He...
He didn't get a Nobel Prize, except the one that Machado gave him.
He didn't get a Nobel Prize.
Therefore, he no longer has to care about peace.
His psychology would be hurt if he doesn't get Greenland.