Susan Stokes

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98 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Jul 2026 last heard 24 Jul

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Some of them have become much more interested
in politics in the world around them and others feel a kind of growing cynicism or kind of skepticism about the institutions around them they see them as poised against them they see them as elitist and kind of blocking their access they are very sensitive to corruption to powerful people not playing by the rules i was very struck by the whole world cup
controversy over the red card of the World Cup player, the American World Cup player.
And that I just from conversations that I heard around campus and in my own household, there was a sense of, oh, you know, yet again, the fix is in and they're powerful people who can make their way in the world by not playing by the rules.
And that's very discouraging for young people.
Well, it's really interesting.
I think that it would be a mistake to look at the United States or the world around us and think, well, people are supporting apparently very kind of aggrandizing in terms of their power leaders because they don't believe in democracy anymore.
That is not mostly what we find happening.
there is still continued support for democracy as a system of government.
But people are open to the argument that particular institutions and their democracies are corrupt, don't work well, are kind of pitted against them.
Again, income inequality can contribute to their openness to that point of view.
So they think of themselves as good Democrats, but they think of themselves as supporting leaders who are
going to kind of clean out the system, burn it all to the ground and start over and presumably have a better democracy.
It's interesting, I published a book last year called The Backsliders, which traces the, kind of explains why we're seeing democratic erosion around the world.
And one of the, as I say, one of the interesting, important findings is that income inequality is a part of that story.
And what I've found very interesting is that when you look closely at certain countries, they also have experienced a dramatic rise in income inequality.
but they experience what we call market inequality.
So what people are paid from their jobs can become very unequal.
But then there's what we call post-fisc inequality, which is basically what does distribution of income look like after taxes have been collected and after social benefits of various kinds, government programs have been paid out.
And in the United States, the latter doesn't do as much to correct for inequality in the former.
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